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  1. Defiance

    Back at the Woolsack Later April 5th

    "His Majesty is like many when such plots are afoot, he pulls closer old friends and those who owe advancement only to him. That the King is speaking little serious to anyone betrays just how serious the scenario is believed to be," Worcester postulated. "Those who would benefit little or not at all from such schemes are deemed to be more trustworthy, and if those things are combined with experience..." Norfolk trailed off. He suspected there was yet some suspicion of him because he had only recently turned from Catholicism. Worcester had little involvement with either the French or the Dutch, aside from his step-daughter having served Princess Mary. Though that, as Basildon had also pieced together, could be inconvenient to people's conspiring minds. Allegations never had to be true, just plausible enough to scare people and embolden one's enemies! "Little enough working in any form of concert," Worcester said, with an agreeable chuckle to the French & Dutch not playing such games. Norfolk nodded, tipping his glass in salute. "It is not very certain, though. There is quite a lot of talk. Whenever there is much change around His Majesty, people tend to concoct many things," the duke added. "And, to be sure, there are things put out as purposeful subterfuge," Worcester added. "To flush people out, which one would think is the next step if there is some sort of nefarious plan about."
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  3. For his part, Buckingham enjoyed the company of Nicolette by his side, for beyond the effervescence she gave an evening, at some point court would realize that the King had affections for her. Though he had been on a down-streak for quite a few years, he felt a stark reversal of fortune, much thanks to Melville (who Francis had ironically brought him) finding a piece of parchment and starting a series of events, unawares, that he had been ready to capitalize on. Thus, his mood was prime for the reception of Sophia's overtures and for those seeking him in general. Nicci might notice that he closed his eyes at various times, though clearly not out of tiredness. Those with enough intimacy to him would know that he oft played with his eyes closed. Though Sophia's breasts were, indeed, quite fine - as were her lips truth be told - they were not essential to him experiencing the music. All of it in the entirety, accompaniment included. He found Caroline's part exceedingly well-done too. Buckingham smiled when he heard Nicci mention Greyson.
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    Away & Here Notices

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  5. Defiance

    Back at the Woolsack Later April 5th

    "It is hard to ever know what His Majesty is thinking about such affairs," Worcester said. "He has let others with just as much knowledge leave the country in flight or exile." Clarendon among them, so there was a precedent for the King's lack of concern over ministers. As to Sunderland, neither leaped to divulge their thoughts. "He has experience as an ambassador, so I wager his connections abroad are fairly strong, but I should much rather have experience now," Norfolk said. Worcester laughed at Louis' idea. "That is not a bad idea. I would not put it past that such a thing is actually going on. That does sound like a scheme of Buckingham, and His Majesty oft turns to such personages in more dangerous times." It was not surprising then that Basildon had joined up with the Duke; it was a wise move if one wanted to escape connection to Danby's fate. Norfolk nodded his agreement. "It is surely not something Arlington would come up with, and I have seem him in more close company with the King lately too." "It would be considered somewhat dangerous to even answer that question..." Worcester said. At least, in a public place, Royalist or not. Norfolk was a bit more able to answer tactfully, "You saw the country's reaction to fear of the Duke of York and Catholics with all the fervent attempts at legislation like the Test and Exclusion. If such were reality, what do you think the response would be?" Louis might then follow the thought through to why a Dutch faction might have interest in such machinations. They surely would not wish to see a Catholic, who would side with the French, on the throne.
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  7. "I do not know very much about metal...or forging," Arthur replied. "Nor I," said Charles, although it was rather intriguing. He made a "hmmm" face as he thought of it. Soon matters were called to a vote, and things were overwhelmingly in favor of funding. If Nicci wished to think of it in a positive fashion, at least it was to give money to the Navy and Prince Rupert, who was a royal she had always wished to charm! At the very least, it would make His Majesty very happy and take care of Naval debts. No doubt that would make him all the merrier around Nicci. And they weren't going to war in France (and they weren't really going to war at all). His Majesty might have even betrayed that to her if she had dared ask! He was somewhat known for telling ladies things he ought not. Anne E "That would be many thousands of cannon to outfit them all!" Ernle whispered. "But it will at least give us a few ships outfitted entire and many of the others outfit with some of the new cannon. I am sure they have been making them non-stop, for it is not something that can be forged just anywhere. We should not wish the secrets of it getting out, for then 'twould not be a proper advantage anymore." Smiling, he said as they observed, "Well that suits our naval causes." (OOC for Nicci - I wasn't sure if I remembered her admiration for Rupert correctly or not!)
  8. Defiance

    Suspicions

    The two men were comfortable by a warm fire, talking in low voices. "We will know more when Trevor gets back. They cannot delay him for long." "And what of Basildon?" "If he knew what Danby was doing, he would have to be stupid to let Danby survive, so there is some degree of certainty he was not." "Is it certain he did not kill him later, or made it so by order?" "He was followed, as was Danby. Still, even after he left our soil, Basildon would have to trust a bunch of foreigners to manage Danby and the man is far too intelligent and paranoid for such things. I am fairly certain if Basildon knew, Danby would have been dead on that first meeting, and perhaps those Hill boys too." The man shrugged, "Unless Basildon is being held to accounts by someone else who holds a great threat over his head, but if such were the case I doubt his wife would have been returned. It cannot be ruled out, but it is not a great worry." (TBC)
  9. The Duc de Chevreuse and the Duke of Buckingham had a long history. A history that dated back before either was even born, and a history that was unequivocably attached for any generations in the future. And not a bit of it had anything to do with shared blood or family. Merely a shared venture and the resulting shared secret. There were only certain sorts of secrets that had the powers to crush dukes, but it meant that they could trust each other to very strong degrees. At least with the large picture, if not with the smaller details. "If this war comes to an end swiftly, the danger to your King from that Dutch faction will become very real, for they won't need him anymore. And you have hordes of them here," Chevreuse said, sedately over his cognac. "His Majesty cannot expel the representatives of our 'allies' in this war, Chevreuse, no matter what suspicions they are under. That would betray what we know and also expedite their needs to make moves against my master the King." "And what if the Dutch know the moves in this war as they are? What if your ships leave for show, and the Dutch turn on them, knowing that your King stalled to allow us Spring gains for a larger stipend still? And before any of this plot came to light?" "They cannot fight both of us simultaneously the way things currently stand, do you doubt it?" Buckingham asked, with a snort. Perhaps years ago, yes, but the French had done quite a number on them and their little neighborly allies in recent years. "And Parliament is far more willing to vote us money against you Papists than they ever were about the Dutch, so we would be far better equipped. Why do you think the Dutch made us such a strong deal for our involvement to begin with and were so keen on the marriage? They knew they were bidding against you, and they thought His Majesty would not trust Le Roi after the attempt on his life." "And they also knew that such a marriage would give their leader the strongest claim to an insolvent throne, further illustrating the very cabal against King Charles by the Dutch. And you think William of Orange cannot be aware of it? Aware that several of his highest placed Dutch comrades wish to kill your King, allow your people to crucify York like one of Monmouth's effigies, and then place him on the throne? You think a ruler does not know that?" Buckingham shrugged, "His Majesty does not think William of Orange is involved, and nor do I. No more than he or I would think Le Roi was the real source of the previous assassination attempt if you recall." Kings and rulers did not oft seek to murder other kings and rulers outright. It created a rather bad precedent. Those under them were different stories. "As you recall, I told you there were Dutch Protestants and spies involved in that attempt too." "I believed you, if you recall. It was Danby's influence that prevented His Majesty's suspicions of a greater net of involvement." "Yes, and now you know why he worked so tirelessly on that. For he was in league with the Dutch." "And with the Dutch conspirators." The only problem was that they needed to know who was involved, and who could be a very large group of people in instances like this. There could be French, Dutch, English, Germans, who knew. Those that did not have reasons of their own could be bribed and blackmailed. It was hard to get deeply in such matters. And with a new Northern Secretary. ....... (TBC)
  10. There did not seem to be very many dissenting voices. Buckingham's group seemed in accord, along with the new Lord Treasurer. Norfolk voted for, being in both the Royalist business and also removing himself from any possible accusations of papist sympathy. Gerard also voted for. Worcester too. Shaftesbury even voted for the measures. He was no friend to the French, like most Englishmen, and he also believed King Louis too powerful. And there was now a different game to play. Older intriguers could sense when something large was afoot and oft had the largeness of circle to find out what it might be, and those times brought great opportunity. And when a minister like Danby fell that changed the dynamics of everything. (Shall we bring this to a close?)
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  12. Defiance

    Back at the Woolsack Later April 5th

    The other gentlemen laughed. Being reminded of one's age was somewhat bittersweet. "Do not say so around my lady wife, or she's likely to give you a slap, or tell yours to do so!" Worcester laughed. For as much as anyone else knew, Lisa was his wife's daughter, and all his children fully thought her their half-siblings. "It seems to me that His Majesty is less concerned where Danby may be than either the French or the Dutch, which is quite curious." Norfolk observed. "I have heard some speculate that His Majesty already knows where Danby is." "Or perhaps Buckingham killled him," Norfolk speculated with a chuckle, jesting, with a cheeky nod at Basildon. "In full seriousness, there have been whispers that the delays in war are because something is suspected of a Dutch faction, and it is best that you both take care given that your lady wife has not been long returned. Such climates politically can sweep up the innocent as well as the guilty," Worcester said. He was not a man ostentatiously in the thick of things politically, but he was a successfully strategic man in the realm of politics. Their family had been one of scant few with Plantagenet blood to survive both the battles of York and Lancaster as well as the Tudors, after all. That had not been done without some skill passed down. Louis clearly knew at least one of the massive secrets Worcester knew. "The French protestants were involved in the attempt on His Majesty, and their allies are, of course, many influential Dutch."
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    Away & Here Notices

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  15. Defiance

    Back at the Woolsack Later April 5th

    "Change, good God, man, have we not had enough of that in the last thirty years!" Worcester joked, chuckling. Although there was quite a bit of truth to it. The English had done quite a bit of changing and clamouring about more changing, and all it had done was made them broke, by and large. "Not waters I would tread, for you are far more likely to gain a set of eyes in your business than change a man's principles once he has said them on grand stage," Norfolk said. "And far weaker should he have surfaced elsewhere, I think," Worcester said. "Someone is keeping him. I'm not sure which option is worse." Norfolk nodded. Even their allies in this "war" were under some suspicion. Danby had grabbed the grandsons of a man who was serving a diplomatic mission with the Dutch, after all, and that was no accident. "There may be more to the Dutch than just desiring England's help in war, for those I've seen have their own suspicious countenance." Norfolk added, "I still have the Hill boys, their grandfather should have returned by now. His Majesty recalled him. When querying the Dutch, they say there is weather or reports of dangers in the channel." "Perhaps the channel will swallow them up as if apparently did Danby. All on its own," Worcester commented.
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